Ptolemaic Clarity

Francene Hart

~i am the mud
between the toes of the Beloved…
make of me a poultice for the healing,
that from our commingling
the lotus may take root –
…a strong foundation
for the blossoming…

~hag

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Today 3 June 2020 Venus (which Steiner calls occult or Ptolemaic Mercury – see references below) meets Mars, hidden behind the glare the Sun – Healing Love, squaring up with the god of war, in the fiery warmth of the solar logos…What does this dance portend? And how can we join the conversation?

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The famous unveiling of the open secret of the Copernican reversal of Mercury & Venus occurred in the 3rd lecture of ‘The Apocalypse of St. John’, by Rudolf Steiner, on 20 June 1908:“Here I come to a point where a little secret, so to say, must be unveiled, one which may only be divulged at this point. In truth if we wish to speak esoterically, as the writer of the apocalypse has done, we must speak of Mercury as the morning star. By the morning star John meant Mercury: I have given the direction towards thine `I’, to the morning star, to Mercury. – You may still find in certain books of the Middle ages, which describe the true state of affairs, that the stars of our planetary system are enumerated thus: Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, and then Earth is followed not as it is now by Venus, Mercury, but by the reverse, Mercury, Venus.” This reversal mentioned again on 5 September, 1908, in Egyptian Myths and Mysteries, Experiences of Initiation, Mysteries of the Planets, LECTURE 4 – The Experiences of Initiation. The Mysteries of the Planets. The Descent of the Primeval Word:  “Here I would like to add one thing, because misunderstandings have crept into the naming of the planets. In all occult nomenclature, what astronomers call Venus is called Mercury, and vice versa. Astronomers know nothing of the mysteries behind this, because in the past it was not desired that the esoteric names should be revealed. This happened in order to conceal certain things.”

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The first scientifically important use of this reversal occurs in April 1909 in the cycle called ‘The Spiritual Hierarchies and Their Reflection in the Physical World’: “You must picture the earth as the starting point and around it a sphere of influence reaching up to the moon. This is followed by a realm reaching up to Mercury, then one to Venus, and then one up to the sun. Now you may be astonished at the sequence of the planets as I have given it here. You might think that if this is the earth and this is the sun, that I should draw Mercury in the immediate vicinity of the sun, and then Venus. But that is not correct. The names of these two planets have been interchanged by a later astronomy. What is called Mercury today was known in ancient teachings as Venus, and the planet referred to as Venus nowadays was always known as Mercury. We cannot rightly understand what is said about Venus and Mercury in ancient writings if we assume them to refer to the present planets of these names. At the time when the world system was turned topsy-turvy, when the earth was robbed of its central position, not only the perspective was completely altered, but the opportunity was taken of interchanging the names of Mercury and Venus.”

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In the 1910 cycle available as ‘Macrocosm and Microcosm’, referring to the application of the many facts he is presenting, Steiner says, “The moon revolves around the Earth and the planets usually called Mercury and Venus are nearer to the Sun and revolve around it. I emphasize here that in the course of time a change has taken place in the names of these two planets. The planet that is called Mercury to-day was formerly Venus, and the planet called Venus today was formerly called Mercury. Therefore you should think of these designations reversed, so that they do not correspond with current astronomical designations. The planet lying nearer the Sun must be known as Venus and the planet lying farther away from the Sun must be known as Mercury.

In the 12 June 1910, lecture Steiner uses the term: `Ptolemaic’ Venus & Mercury’ as opposed to the Copernican.

In ‘The Spiritual Beings in the Heavenly Bodies and the Kingdoms of Nature’, April 1912: “Thus these normally developed Spirits of Motion so work down from the planets that they succeed one another in the process of human evolution, and reveal themselves in the great civilization impulses in the evolution of the earth which reach out beyond the sphere of the Spirits of the Age. Thus, for example, from that Spirit of Motion who worked down from the planet which present-day astronomy calls Venus, and which ancient astronomy called Mercury (for these two names have been exchanged), from that Spirit of Motion came originally the impulse of the civilisation which was expressed in Buddhism.”

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Steiner then relates that: “If we observe the planet Saturn in our system we find that the life stream which permeates the earth directly from him is connected with the substance we call lead: so we have a basic substance which is inwardly animated by Saturn. From Jupiter we get tin as the main substance; from Mars, iron; and in the occult sense, from Venus, copper. With regard to Mercury we must take into consideration that he was later confused with Venus. The life activity (in the sense of true occult nomenclature) produced creatively by Mercury, on account of its greater proximity when it penetrated the earth-organism, bears a still greater resemblance to the planet itself, for Mercury stands nearer the earth than the other planets. Therefor the substance has been given the same name as the cosmic body itself, namely, mercury or quick-silver.”

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On 11 June, 1912, in ‘Man in the Light of Occultism, Theosophy and Philosophy’, Steiner calls the “… astronomical Venus, the traditional, Ptolemaic Mercury… employing therefore in this case not the old terminology which was altered by Kepler . . . ”

On 3 Nov. 18 Nov. & 15 & 22 Dec. 1912, the use of the Ptolemaic or occult Venus is again specified to be the astronomical Mercury.

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In the lecture cycle ‘Ancient Myths‘ on 8 Jan. 1918, Steiner uses the Ptolemaic sequence to specify planet-Zodiac sign relationships.

From ‘Materialism and the Task of Anthroposophy’:  “Just as this ancient astronomy was subsequently obscured after the fourth century and physical astronomy took the place of the old etheric astronomy in the fifteenth century”.

In ‘Health and Illness, Vol. II’:  “..and it was only twenty-five to thirty-five hundred years ago that people looked upon the planets in a completely different scientific way.

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MANIFESTATIONS OF KARMA: June 3rd, 2020 Zoom Meeting with the Central Regional Council 7:15 pm – 8:30 pm CDT
He who observes human life carefully — not simply in a superficial way — may find remarkable connections in it. Unfortunately, the phenomena of human life are at present observed for only short periods of time, hardly even for a few years; people are not accustomed to connect what has happened after a long period of time, with what may have happened previously as the cause. There are very few at the present day who study the beginning and the end of a man’s life in their relationship to each other; nevertheless this relationship is extraordinarily instructive.” ~Rudolf Steiner, Manifestations of Karma

Chapter 1, “The Nature and Significance of Karma in the Personal and Individual, and in Humanity, the Earth and the Universe, Hamburg, 16 May, 1910 … focus of the June 3 meeting.

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Friday 19 June 2020 – Front Range Anthroposophical Café presents:

The New Mysteries of St. Johns-Tide with Hazel Archer-Ginsberg 

To pass the test of Summer we will explore many questions:

  • How do we stand wakefully within the sublime mysteries of the Summer-Tide, to consciously embody ‘the spiritual wisdom of the gods’?
  • Who is the mysterious Archangel of Summer?
  • Who is John the Baptist? What do his sayings “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven has come near.” And “He must increase, but I must decrease.” really mean?
  • What is the secret to healing the ‘soul-fever’ so prevalent in society today?
  • What is the mystery of the Dragon-fly, & other elemental beings?
  • How can we understand the ‘Cycle of the Year as Breathing Process of the Earth’?

Together we will work to strengthen our true “I”, enlivening our will forces.

We look forward to seeing you on Friday 19 June 2020 shortly before 7 PM (Mountain time.) Here is the link to our Anthroposophical Café and all you need to do to join us is click on it: https://zoom.us/j/294724669.

Warmly, Karen vann Vuuren, Tom Altgelt, Jamie York, and our growing circle of Café Friends – It’s better to light a candle than to curse the darkness.

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3 thoughts on “Ptolemaic Clarity

  1. Dear Hazel,

    You offered this quotation, which has huge implications for what has since become the Mercury stream working in the world for the acceptance of the Christ Impulse:

    You wrote:

    In ‘The Spiritual Beings in the Heavenly Bodies and the Kingdoms of Nature’, April 1912: “Thus these normally developed Spirits of Motion so work down from the planets that they succeed one another in the process of human evolution, and reveal themselves in the great civilization impulses in the evolution of the earth which reach out beyond the sphere of the Spirits of the Age. Thus, for example, from that Spirit of Motion who worked down from the planet which present-day astronomy calls Venus, and which ancient astronomy called Mercury (for these two names have been exchanged), from that Spirit of Motion came originally the impulse of the civilisation which was expressed in Buddhism.”

    I have often referred to Steiner’s lecture of 13 March 1911, in which he demonstrates how the original Buddha-Mercury stream takes on its own direction when Josaphat is converted to Christianity by the hermit Barlaam. This indicates a very important point of transition. The Mercury stream, now having integrated Buddhism, takes on its own higher directional force as indicated in the lecture from 20 June 1908 from the Apocalypse of St. John. “And I give you the Morning Star”. Thus, the path to the “I Am”.

    https://wn.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA124/English/RSP1985/19110313p02.html

    1. I often think about what Steiner said regarding Buddha’s assignment to Mars, but i am not familiar with the lecture you share, so thanks I will investigate

  2. Wow, Hazel!

    It is good to have all these referrals to the true placement of Venus & Mercury. Here is another take on the importance of the ordering, which combines the 12 world outlooks with the 7 planetary moods:

    https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA151/English/RSP1991/Diag.php?hctdiag11.png+11

    “What I have just depicted is actually the spiritual correlative of what we find externally in the world as the relations between the signs of the Zodiac and the planets, the seven planets familiar in Spiritual Science. Thus we have an external picture (not invented, but standing out there in the cosmos) for the relations of our seven world-outlook-moods to our twelve shades of world-outlook. We shall have the right feeling for this picture if we contemplate it in the following manner.

    Let us begin with Idealism, and let us mark it with the mental-zodiacal sign of Aries; in like manner let us mark Rationalism as Taurus, Mathematism as Gemini, Materialism as Cancer, Sensationalism as Leo, Phenomenalism as Virgo, Realism as Libra, Dynamism as Scorpio, Monadism as Sagittarius, Spiritism as Capricorn, Pneumatism as Aquarius, and Psychism as Pisces. The relations which exist spatially between the individual zodiacal signs are actually present between these shades of world-outlook in the realm of spirit. And the relations which are entered into by the planets, as they follow their orbits through the Zodiac, correspond to the relations which the seven world-outlook-moods enter into, so that we can feel Gnosticism as Saturn, Logicism as Jupiter, Voluntarism as Mars, Empiricism as Sun, Mysticism as Venus, Transcendentalism as Mercury, and Occultism as Moon.”

    Is it correct to say that Astrosophy still holds to the Copernican arrangement? I have seen this in both the work of Willi Sucher and Jonathan Hilton.

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